Southgate hints England players could walk off if racially abused again
Wednesday 10 June 2020 10:33, UK
England manager Gareth Southgate says people from black, Asian and ethnic minorities have to be able to believe they can get opportunities in the game.
Protests following the death of American George Floyd, who was killed by a white police officer, have focused attention to the broader issue of racism across society.
A number of people have spoken out about the lack of opportunities in football for people from a BAME background, with Raheem Sterling a leading voice, citing how easy it has been for Frank Lampard and Steven Gerrard to get top management jobs ahead of Sol Campbell and Ashley Cole.
Former England international Jermain Defoe also questioned whether it was worth him even doing his coaching badges and Southgate has said that is something that the Football Association has to change.
"We lack that representation," he said. "The biggest crime for us in any area if we're adults looking at kids, is if they sit and think that a path in life isn't possible. And is not accessible.
"I heard Jermain Defoe talking a few days ago saying, 'Is it worth me taking my qualifications?'. That's what we have to avoid.
"We have to avoid the feeling that you can't achieve something because that stops some people going for it. We then have to make sure the opportunity is there when people are qualified and capable.
"And then, of course, they then have to grasp that opportunity and do well and if they can do well they'll role model what's possible to the next generation.
"In the end it is important to hear from those black voices, but it is important to hear from white voices as well because ultimately they are going to be the people in the positions to make decisions and can open up the opportunity and make a difference.
"We are the ones who have to be educated and I have been fascinated, I have been sat with my kids most evenings and discussed what has gone on around the world and watched various films, read various articles because the more knowledge we have the better."
Southgate admitted he was given his first job in management at Middlesbrough without being qualified.
He said: "I know that I got an opportunity at Middlesbrough when I wasn't qualified. That came because I had worked at the club and the owner knew me.
"But I couldn't say that opportunity would have been there for somebody else.
"And I think we are all very conscious of it - the power of what is happening at the moment is that right across the world, people are standing together and these observations and these deeper-seated issues, rather than the horrendous incident that we saw that has triggered all of this and is completely beyond belief, but it's rightly leading to the broader debate on opportunity, privilege."
While accepting greater action is required Southgate did point to a number of FA initiatives that give BAME people more opportunity and highlighted highly-rated coach Justin Cochrane.
"There are on-going schemes ... I'm not a massive lover of initiatives because I don't always think that they deliver ultimately what is required," Southgate said. "I think you need more forceful change.
"But I think there have been initiatives in the last four or five years that are starting to make a difference.
"We have some very good young black coaches coming through our development teams, Justin Cochrane is somebody who I think, within our group of national coaches, he is going to be a top coach.
"We also shouldn't look just at the ex-players or high-profile players.
"Because as we know, so many of the top managers haven't been top, top international players and that route must also be open to black coaches that haven't played at the highest level.
"There will be some super bright lads out there who have come through universities, they might take the route that a Graham Potter or somebody has gone, by going back into university. So we've got to make sure that all of those pathways are open."
England boss Southgate has hinted his side would walk off the pitch if they were subject to racist abuse again, saying fans should not get two or three free hits.
England's black players have suffered sickening abuse in Euro 2020 qualifiers in Montenegro and Bulgaria over the last 14 months, with Danny Rose, Raheem Sterling, Callum Hudson-Odoi and Tyrone Mings among those targeted.
The game in Sofia was subjected to several stoppages as per UEFA protocols before England eventually decided to play on, but Southgate has said they would not be so forgiving next time.
"I think players would feel we don't want to go through an experience again where people get one or two chances to have a go at us before we are able to take action," he said.
"I think every situation is unique. I don't see going through a situation like we did in Bulgaria again in the same way - the group will have moved on and their level of tolerance for something like that would be different.
"On that night, by following the process we did, we still made a huge statement across the world - that is going to have less impact if we are put in that position again.
"I can only reiterate that by that stage, in my view, we've gone too far anyway. We should not be experiencing that situation in the ground, full stop.
"I'm loathed to comment on walking off abroad because again there is a perception there that I am shifting the problem to somebody else's doorstep when, quite clearly, we've got to sort our own country and our own game out."
